Cluster Bomb Part 1: More Than You Ever Wanted To Know About R32 Instrument Clusters
While my R32 is still sidelined waiting
to commence the engine swap I've been dicking around with more minor
restoration tasks that have been on the to-do list. One of those
tasks was fixing up the instrument cluster that had a nice Tomei
speedo swapped in but the previous owner had also applied this
horrifically cheap-looking “carbon fiber” vinyl to it. It
looked about as tasteful as '90s era underbody neons. Ugh.
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Never apply vinyl while drunk, kids. |
I wanted to not only restore it but
give the cluster a more modern touch plus I wanted to swap in a Nismo
speedo instead of the Tomei one since my R32 is a Nismo after all. In
the process of research and the actual restoration work I found out a
lot of interesting little details about R32 clusters that may be of
use to other owners – such as when you need something to bore your
wife or girlfriend into a coma.
In this first post I'll talk about the
different R32 clusters then in a later post I'll discuss
how I actually fixed up the one in my car.
First thing you'll probably want to
know about R32 dash clusters is that there were actually two
different versions and they aren't compatible with each other. August
1991 saw a coup in Russia and marked the start of the dissolution of
the Soviet Union but more importantly it was the month when Nissan
changed the design of the R32's dash cluster. Prior to 8/1991
clusters had yellow printed circuits on the back while after they
were blue. I haven't found a reason for the design change in my
research so far – maybe Nissan just liked the color blue better. The front face of the cluster looks the same on the pre and post 8/91 clusters except for the turn signals. On the earlier ones the cutouts are two separate arrow shapes while in the later ones there's a single oval cutout with the arrows printed on translucent plastic. Correction: I originally posted that R32 GT-R clusters were similar to lower model clusters except for the tachometers that had a higher redline on the GT-R versions. I forgot that the non-AWD cars have a different gauge on the upper left. On the GT-Rs and I believe the GTS-4s as well that gauge is a "Front Torque" gauge that shows how much power is being channeled by the ATTESSA system to the front wheels. On GTS-Ts, that's replaced by a boost gauge (since the GTS-T doesn't have the GT-R's trademark triple gauge cluster in the center console).
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A pre-August 1991 R32 cluster like the one on mine |
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A post-8/91 cluster. Note the blue circuitry. Image source: Ebay |
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The front of that post-8/91 cluster. Compare the oval turn signal portion to the two arrows on my cluster in the first picture of this article. Image source: eBay |
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Image source: SAU |
On the subject of the Nismo speedo,
there are actually two versions – the more common dark one and the
rarer white-faced version that usually was sold as a set with
matching tach and ancillary gauges. A white-faced center console
gauge set could also be bought to match. The top speed was the same
at 320kph – just the color differed.
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The white Nismo gauges. Image source: Ebay |
If you do want to change your speedo
the important thing to know is that you have to make sure you get one
that fits the year of your car. As I mentioned earlier the design of
the pre-8/91 cluster is different enough from the post-8/91 version
that the gauges from one won't work in the other.
The fact that many Skylines have had
their speedos changed due to the top speed limit is the reason why a
lot of cars have inaccurate odometer readings. It makes records more
important to verify the actual mileage.
Another interesting thing about the R32
cluster is that the 180kph limit on the face wasn't the only attempt
to limit top speed on the R32. If you look at these pics of my car's
cluster on top versus the spare one I got off eBay below it you'll see mine is missing
the little grey box on the back. What the heck is it, you ask?
Well, from reading the service manual
it seems to be a little device that sounds a chime at 110kph, summons
the Japanese police, and causes John Denver songs to play on the
stereo to put you to sleep. Okay, I'm lying about the last two things
– it's just a chime, no one should ever be forced to listen to John
Denver. Anyway, the silly thing is easily removable by detaching some
screws.
You may be wondering at this point if
there's any option to change your cluster from reading those silly
new-fashioned metric readings to good old Southern-fried miles per
hour. Well, there is – it's called a Sharpie.
For those of you who prefer a solution
a little less MacGyver and a bit more McLaren then there's a UK
company that sells replacement dash faces for the R32 and other
Skylines. Since good old Blighty still uses the imperial units they
forced most of the world to use before the uppity colonials got all
in their face, UK owners have the same need we have – although with
them it's a legal requirement whereas with us Americans we just hate
being inconvenienced with silly math. Here's a link in case you're
interested:
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Image credit: Lockwood International |
The downside to the Lockwood dial faces
is that a) they only fit the standard 180kph speedo – so they won't
work for you Texan speed demons and b) I've read the instructions and
they involve a nerve-wracking removal of the needles from the gauges
by prying them off. My fists of ham probably would break mine into a
million-jillion pieces so no thanks – I'll just keep guesstimating
my speed. Oh hello, officer! No, my house ain't on fire – but my
brain is from trying to divide by 1.609 while driving!
One last thing I discovered while
messing around with my car's cluster is that Nissan apparently made a
unique gauge surround for the Nismo R32s. It's only a very tiny
change but since the Nismos had no ABS they put in a black cover over
the ABS warning light. They could have just omitted the bulb and had
the same result but as a consequence it's one more little detail to
differentiate a Nismo from a regular R32 GT-R. Of course you have to
disassemble the cluster to find out but some car collectors are that
anal. I assume the N1s have the same since they also lacked ABS.
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Note how my Nismo cluster has just a black space while the normal R32 GT-R cluster below says Anti-Lock? The Nismos had no ABS from the factory. |
So there you go, more info than you'll
probably ever need about Skyline R32 dash clusters unless you show up
on some bizarre gearhead version of Jeopardy. Next time I'll try and
not bore you as much by talking about how I fixed up my poor car's
disfigured cluster.
Oh, you forgot about the seat belt warning lamp bro. Later gauges has those, early type doesn't. :)
ReplyDeleteIs that the round circle just below the turn signals on the later gauges? I was wondering what that one was since the earlier ones don't have that.
DeleteNo.. I think that's "cruise" which is not applicable to our m/t. It's just beside the "4WD" light. The early cluster has the circuit and bulb location ready but it doesn't have the lens with the seat belt guy sitting logo. Hehe. It's just black..
DeleteAh, okay. I'll have to check that out whenever I get a chance to see a post 8/91 cluster. Since those cars just turned 25 it'll probably be a while before I get to inspect one closely here in the States lol.
DeleteCan you buy just the gauges, like the white kit and install them in the blue or yellow backed ones? Or are they model specific also? Found a brand new old stock set of all the gauges and I don't know if they're for early or later models because they're not in a cluster. Part number I guess ?
DeleteThe speedo is definitely specific to either the pre 8/91 or post 8/91 cluster. The rest of the gauges I'm not sure. They should have different part numbers if they're specific to different years but I don't know what they are unfortunately.
DeleteHey Oliver, I was wondering if you know if its possible to install a Tommy Kaira M20 R32 GTST cluster into a standard R32 Gtst?
DeleteThanks
Sorry, but I couldn't say for sure since I've never seen one myself. I'd expect yes since all aftermarket clusters I've seen are just gauge swaps basically and leave the OEM wiring alone but I don't want to pretend I know the answer when I don't. Wish I could be more help!
DeleteHey mate do you know if the speedo output is different between pre and post dates?
ReplyDeleteSorry, don't know how I missed this comment when you first posted it but if you're talking about the spindle that connects the speedo to the speedo cable it should be the same since the speedo cable is the same part regardless of what year your R32 was made.
DeleteMan awesome write but really want to know what will or won't work if I put a later cluster in my early production skyline 🤷♂️
ReplyDeleteI haven't tried it myself but as far as I know the early and later clusters aren't directly interchangeable. The port in the back seems to be the same but the wiring is slightly different so some lights and gauges may work while others won't or nothing may work at all. There are probably certain differences between the early and late speedos as well to warrant they have different parts from Nismo even though the speedo cable interface is the same.
DeleteHey there! Got a R32 GTR and the Tacho's been freaking the hell out. Seen some potential fixes but want to plan for the worse just in case? Been trying to find info on the Tacho motor's and so far nada, not sure if the gtst's or other models function the same or not (the range of motion maybe? Electrical isn't my strong suit). In all, just doing what I can to get this thing working correctly, and if not then seeing where I can nab a part! Thanks!
ReplyDeleteHi! Sorry but I don't know for sure if a GTS-T tacho will work although I suspect not since the range of the meters were different. Based on this parts breakdown it seems likely that you'd have to stick with a GT-R tacho since non GT-Rs have different part numbers:
Deletehttps://jp-carparts.com/nissan/partlist.php?maker=nissan&type=79&cartype=50&fig=248
Hope that helps and good luck fixing the issue!